Spy++ to MsgID Mapping: How to Translate Message Names

Converting Spy++ Window Messages to MsgID: A Quick Guide### Overview

Spy++ is a Microsoft utility that monitors and displays Windows messages, window trees, processes, and threads. It’s invaluable when debugging GUI behavior or reverse-engineering message flows. However, Spy++ shows message names (like WM_PAINT, WM_LBUTTONDOWN) and sometimes numeric values in decimal or hex. In many development contexts — for logging, tooling, or programmatic handling — you need the numeric message identifiers (MsgID) as defined by the Windows API. This guide explains how to convert Spy++ window messages into their MsgID numeric equivalents, how to interpret Spy++ output, and offers practical workflows and scripts to automate conversion.


1. What Spy++ Shows and Why MsgIDs Matter

Spy++ displays:

  • Window class names and handles (HWND)
  • Message names (WM_*)
  • Parameters (wParam and lParam)
  • Timestamps and thread/process IDs

Why convert to MsgID:

  • Numeric identifiers are required for lookups in code, switch statements, or logging where constants may differ.
  • Some messages are custom or registered at runtime (RegisterWindowMessage) and only appear as numbers.
  • Automation and parsing tools work with numeric values more reliably than varied textual names.

2. Sources of Message IDs

There are three common sources for a message’s numeric value:

  • Windows headers (winuser.h and related) — the primary source for standard messages.
  • MSDN / Microsoft Docs — authoritative documentation for message semantics and constants.
  • Runtime registration — messages created with RegisterWindowMessage return a dynamic ID not in headers.

Common examples:

  • WM_PAINT = 0x000F (decimal 15)
  • WM_LBUTTONDOWN = 0x0201 (decimal 513)

3. Manual Conversion Steps

  1. Note the message name displayed in Spy++ (e.g., WM_KEYDOWN).
  2. Search the Windows header files (winuser.h) or Microsoft Docs for the constant. Microsoft Docs lists the decimal and hex values.
  3. If the message is numeric in Spy++ (e.g., 0xC001), consider that it might be a registered or custom message—look for RegisterWindowMessage usage in the target application or check log output that maps names to IDs.
  4. For registered messages, you can attempt to find the string by scanning application binaries/strings or instrumenting the app to log the RegisterWindowMessage calls.

4. Automated Conversion Techniques

A. Lookup Table (Local)

Create a local mapping dictionary from message name to numeric ID. Useful for standard messages.

Example (partial) mapping in C-like pseudocode:

struct MsgMap { const char* name; unsigned int id; } msgs[] = {   { "WM_NULL", 0x0000 },   { "WM_CREATE", 0x0001 },   { "WM_DESTROY", 0x0002 },   { "WM_MOVE", 0x0003 },   { "WM_SIZE", 0x0005 },   { "WM_PAINT", 0x000F },   { "WM_KEYDOWN", 0x0100 },   { "WM_LBUTTONDOWN", 0x0201 },   // ... }; 

Load this table into a small utility (Python, PowerShell, C#) to translate Spy++ outputs.

B. Scripted Parsing with Microsoft Headers

Use a script that extracts constants from the Platform SDK headers. For example, a Python script can parse winuser.h and build a mapping of #define entries.

Basic approach:

  • Download or reference Windows SDK headers.
  • Parse lines with patterns like #define WM_* and capture value (handle hex/decimal).
  • Normalize values to decimal/hex as needed.
C. Dynamic Runtime Mapping via Instrumentation

If the message is from RegisterWindowMessage or custom code:

  • Instrument the target process (if you have source) to log RegisterWindowMessage names and returned IDs.
  • Use debugging APIs (SetWindowsHookEx with WH_CALLWNDPROC) in a helper process to intercept calls to RegisterWindowMessage if you can inject code.
  • Alternatively, scan the binary for static strings that match expected registered message names.

5. Handling Special Cases

  • Registered messages: Only discovered at runtime. If you see numeric values above WM_USER (0x0400) or in the private message ranges, assume registration/custom usage. Use runtime logging or scanning to identify names.
  • Control notification codes: Many controls (e.g., common controls, custom controls) send WM_NOTIFY with a code in the NMHDR structure. Spy++ shows WM_NOTIFY but you’ll need to inspect wParam/lParam or higher-level docs for the notification code mapping.
  • Unicode vs ANSI: Message constants don’t change, but parameters/structures might differ for character messages (WM_CHAR vs WM_CHAR variants in Unicode builds are not separate message constants; they share the same MsgID).

6. Example: Convert Spy++ Output to MsgID Using Python

Here’s a concise Python example that maps common Spy++ names to IDs.

MSG_MAP = {   "WM_NULL": 0x0000,   "WM_CREATE": 0x0001,   "WM_DESTROY": 0x0002,   "WM_MOVE": 0x0003,   "WM_SIZE": 0x0005,   "WM_PAINT": 0x000F,   "WM_CLOSE": 0x0010,   "WM_KEYDOWN": 0x0100,   "WM_KEYUP": 0x0101,   "WM_CHAR": 0x0102,   "WM_LBUTTONDOWN": 0x0201,   # add more as needed } def name_to_id(name):     return MSG_MAP.get(name, None) if __name__ == "__main__":     print(hex(name_to_id("WM_PAINT"))) 

7. Tips for Practical Use

  • Keep your lookup table synced with the Windows SDK version you target.
  • Log both the name and numeric value when debugging; it makes correlation easier.
  • For automation, parse Spy++ export files (it can save message logs) and run them through your converter script.

8. Resources & Further Reading

  • Windows SDK (winuser.h)
  • Microsoft Docs on Windows Messages
  • Tools: Spy++, Process Explorer, PE viewers (for scanning strings)

Converting Spy++ output to MsgID is mostly a matter of matching names to constants for standard messages and doing runtime discovery for registered/custom messages. Use a combination of header parsing, local lookup tables, and runtime instrumentation to cover all cases.

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